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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It’s good to have a healthy dose of skepticism about such things. But at the same time, keep in mind that many or most successful technologies started out as klunky things that no one would really want, hammers in search of nails – e.g., personal computers, cell phones, Skype, YouTube, Twitter, etc. etc. The vast majority may end up as completely useless, but it’s very hard to predict. (Especially the future….)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> Matthew<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ilab-users-bounces@lists.cs.ucsb.edu [mailto:ilab-users-bounces@lists.cs.ucsb.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Saiph Savage<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:37 PM<br><b>To:</b> Four Eyes Lab<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [4eyes] AR interaction with projectors<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Thanks for discussing this Guys, good points raised. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>With respect to Steffen's questions, I think it's the whole package that bothers me: using a kinect controller for everything, building ugly 3D models without knowing what for, using projectors to project low resolution stuff on everything even if the low resolution makes it useless and if it's shaking like hell, and building technology demos for the purpose of showing technology rather than trying to first understand what you want to use it for, and why, and what technology you need in the first place. ...But my primary pet peeve is using a kinect controller for everything, a hammer in search for nails. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Thanks for reading me.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Cheers<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Steffen Gauglitz <<a href="mailto:sgauglitz@cs.ucsb.edu">sgauglitz@cs.ucsb.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Maybe you can be a little bit more specific by what you mean with "it". What is the "big, fat sledge hammer" here?<br>Are you talking about the Kinect? The handheld projectors? All of spatial AR?<br><br>I agree that some of the demos they show are eye-candy, but to me, pico projectors seem to be a promising display for AR -- considering that all alternative display systems so far have their quirks too...<br><br>-Steffen<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br>On 11/03/2011 11:04 AM, Saiph Savage wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal>I feel, this is a technology pushed for the purpose of pushing the<br>technology. A big, fat sledge hammer in search for tiny nails. I agree<br>that this is 'cool' technology, but no one has designed anything that<br>would make it useful, practical, elegant, solving a real problem, ...<br>All of what they show is utterly useless, looks bad , and - in a best<br>case scenario - makes you sick because everything is shaking.<br><br>What do others think?<br>Sorry for sounding negative, but this is one of my biggest pet peeves<br>...I think victor knows why ;) haha<br><br>On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Victor Fragoso <<a href="mailto:vfragoso@cs.ucsb.edu" target="_blank">vfragoso@cs.ucsb.edu</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><mailto:<a href="mailto:vfragoso@cs.ucsb.edu" target="_blank">vfragoso@cs.ucsb.edu</a>>> wrote:<br><br> I read this article in engadget. Check it out, the video is really cool.<br> <a href="http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/01/trio-of-microsoft-projectors-lets-you-get-quasi-physical-with-ar/" target="_blank">http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/01/trio-of-microsoft-projectors-lets-you-get-quasi-physical-with-ar/</a><br><br> Best,<br><br> --Victor<br><br> _______________________________________________<br> Ilab-users mailing list<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal> <a href="mailto:Ilab-users@lists.cs.ucsb.edu" target="_blank">Ilab-users@lists.cs.ucsb.edu</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:Ilab-users@lists.cs.ucsb.edu" target="_blank">Ilab-users@lists.cs.ucsb.edu</a>><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br> <a href="https://lists.cs.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/ilab-users" target="_blank">https://lists.cs.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/ilab-users</a><br><br><br><br><br>--<br>Norma Saiph Savage<br><br><br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Ilab-users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Ilab-users@lists.cs.ucsb.edu" target="_blank">Ilab-users@lists.cs.ucsb.edu</a><br><a href="https://lists.cs.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/ilab-users" target="_blank">https://lists.cs.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/ilab-users</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>-- <br>Norma Saiph Savage<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>